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Conference on New Ideas for
Experienced Teachers:
We Teach But Do They Learn?

June 9–13, 2001
Calgary, Alberta, Canada


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Robert F. Seibel, CUNY School of Law

I propose to do an old fashioned Show and Tell! I will show some of the final projects that students have submitted for a Judicial Externship Course that I have taught for several years, first at Cornell Law School and most recently at CUNY. The projects will demonstrate how I have made creative thinking a core goal for the course. The presentation will be based on an article that I am working on which explains how I have combined self directed learning techniques with the establishment of a course atmosphere that encourages creative thinking about experiential learning.

The projects which I will show and describe were all done by students and relate to their experiences working with trial court judges. They may include:

  • a game developed by 3 students which shows the difficulty faced by a pro se litigant who wishes to commence a civil rights action in federal district court
  • an origami comprised of flowers, each of which represents a theme from family court observations
  • a quilt with panels representing themes from tirals
  • a recording of an original musical composition for guitar with several movements portraying aspects of the student/composer's experiences in court
  • a series of 4 abstract paintings showing the stages of a family break-up through events in family court
I expect that I will bring most of the projects that I want to show, but I might have to take photographs and turn them into a powerpoint slide show for some of the projects.

The variety of the projects reflects the diversity of the experiences of the students who created them. These projects are the culmination of a course in which much of the syllabus and many of the class hours are selected and created by the students. I believe that the course demonstrates the power of surrendering control of course material and methods to students. As a result, students begin to accept that their creative and independent insights are valued, and by the time they are required to do a final project, they are ready to try new things and look at their experience in new ways. This combination of independence and creativity is crucial for first rate lawyering and for sustaining a legal career over decades.of fostering creativity and self directed learning.

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